Tuesday, July 19, 2005

Battle Hymn of the Republic

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord:
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword:
His truth is marching on.

Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
His truth is marching on

I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps,
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps:
His day is marching on.
I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on."
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment-seat:
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free,
While God is marching on.
He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.

Julia Ward Howe (May 27, 1819October 17, 1910) was a prominent American abolitionist, social activist, poet and Free Soil Party advocate.

Howe's Battle Hymn of the Republic was first published in the Atlantic Monthly in 1862 and quickly became one of the most popular songs for the Union during the American Civil War.
After the war she focused her activities on the causes of
Pacifism and women's suffrage. She was a member of the Unitarian church. In 1870 she was the first to proclaim Mother's Day, with her Mother's Day Proclamation. On January 28, 1908 Julia Ward Howe became the first woman elected to the American Academy of Arts and Letters.


Anonymous said...

Peaceful Hymn of the Democracy lost out to this poem which uses the word "builded" :)


Anonymous said...

Ha! that is a good pun. Though sadly.. the Peaceful Hymn of the Democracy was uncovered to aptly be named "the Socialist Reform Incantation of the Democratic" which goes to the tune of the Horst Wessel Song -- a strongly anti-Semitic Nazi hymn which commemorates a Stormtrooper who died in a fight with Communists.

Nonetheless, nice try, but if you were to actually read the lyrics, you would see that this nation was founded on God's laws, and liberals are just too stupid to see the that all they are doing is making the United States into one big ghetto.

Anonymous said...

Of course,

It's in fact written in the good book; on the day of the Apocalypse all the "stupid liberals" will burn in an eternal lake of fire. It's His will.

You're a bright one!


Anonymous said...

LOL... funny, though it is sadly right! Most liberals are too caught up in trying to change everything, that they fail to see the very sins they carry with them. You think making abortion legal is what God wanted... what about euthanasia and mercy killing. Or lets go into the realm of personal lives... oh that is right... liberals are socialists, therefore they have no time to worry about their lives... only the lives of others. Good thing for Socialist Big Brother... He's got your back!

Anonymous said...

What does that all mean? Is this the same anonymous that wrote the second comment?

"Liberal" means you're willing to examine each topic individually before coming to a decision. I don't personally believe in God so unlike you (you seem to know what I think so I'll do the same) I don't have predisposed agendas. I'm not pro-abortion and I'm not trying to make it legal. It's already legal. I don't want it to become illegal, there's a big difference. Most young girls want abortions 'cause they're scared of what their fanatically religious parents will think of them if they found out... I believe in open dialogue, education and taking responsibility for one's actions as methods to cut down on abortions, but making them illegal would be taking this country and our society backwards. Besides, why do closed-minded people like yourself seem to focus on the same one small topic of abortion? Unlike you, "Liberals" aren't focused on that, they have a greater vision in mind.

I love intelligent conversations like this, where liberals are communists, compared to anti-semites and all the rest of the beauties written above. So uninformed that Communism is a scary, you must be a bad-man word rather than politics from which we can learn. Want to see anti-semites, along with many other race, sex and religion based biases? Check out most of your conservative friends.


B2 said...

"I'm not pro-abortion" ...If you don't want abortion to become illegal, then you support it being legal...which does make you Pro-Abortion.

Consevatives ARE willing to examine each topic individually before coming to a decision. I have yet to meet a liberal (other than yourself Johnny) that will do such a think. They are blindly optimistic and blindly follow a socialist agenda or movie-stars or musicians that are also blindly following the same agenda. That's why they only spew rhetoric that they have heard somewhere else...without facts to back them up. Liberals = Socialist (Big Government) = Blind Optimism. / Conservatives = Private Ownership = Realists.

You said..."Most young girls want abortions 'cause they're scared of what their fanatically religious parents will think of them if they found out." .............................In reality, (a planned parenthood poll, which is pro-abortion) found that the top 3 reasons women give for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 2/3 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.

None of these are good reasons for murder. But hey...what is?! Either way...shouldn't we be providing them with support...financially, mentally, etc. so they can raise the child or give it up for adoption instead of murering it?!

If you really believed in "open dialogue, education and taking responsibility for one's actions as methods to cut down on abortions" then you obviosly don't agree with other democrats, liberals and pro-abortion Americans that fight against pregnant teens being provided with all of the facts, like what actually happens in an abortion, the horrible side effects they may face, notifying parents, other options such as adoption, etc. Now THAT is closed-minded!!!

Liberals have a greater vision in mind? What's that? The conversion to socialism and utter destruction of this country? Destroying the capitalistic spirit, and along with it, the will to succeed, be better and not rely on others to take care of you? Promoting the genocidal murder of millions of unborn babies through painful methods at the emotional and physical destruction of the mother without notifying her? Redefining the institution of marriage to include homosexuals today, polygamists tommorrow, pedophiles next week, and people into beastiality the following month? Removing the Christian principles that our country was founded on, leaving it to stand on what...flimsy pillars of forced welfare? A government so involved in our lives that we are forced to rely on them for our most basic needs. I'm not sure what this vision is but it sounds VERY dangerous!!!

Liberals ARE biased. Against religion (especially Christianity), life for the unborn, capitalism, etc. Don't kid yourself...as you said...we all hold allegiance to something. The question is...is your's to something good or bad?!

Anonymous said...

I think most liberals are actually religious. I do agree that more information needs to be pumped into our youth when deciding whether or not to have an abortion, I just don't think it should be illegal. Even though you don't want to see it, there is a difference. I'm personally against homosexuality, what it means/does to society but I don't think it should be outlawed or we would be bringing this country back to the Middle-Ages. It doesn't mean I'm pro-gay.

Socialism has a lot of good facets. Competition may be good for the financial state of a country, but not good for its people. I was raised in a Socialist environment, peaceful, respectful of one another, working hard 'cause you know your co-workers are counting on you, a society based on morals and common interest rather than the desire to own a nicer car. Don't be so quick to dismiss it, a lot of good can be had if this country were to incorporate different politics and policies into its current ones.


Anonymous said...

By the way,

I know a few people that have had abortions. The older ones are usually concerned only about their own quality of life, but all the younger girls I knew that went through with it gave me the same reasons... "my parents would kill me if they knew i had sex" ... or "if they found out I was having a child out of wed-lock!" Those are religion driven, pumelled into our minds in this sick neo-Christian society in which we live. We've been tought to be ashamed of our bodies and sexuality 'cause some guy 2500 years ago, walking around in the desert sun for 7 straight days while tripping on the mushrooms he had collected in the mountains the week before decided God told him it would be so.


B2 said...

It doesn't take Moses's 10 commandments to know that "MURDER IS WRONG".

What are you saying? That because a young girl is afraid of her parents being angry with her...that it justifies murdering an unborn life?!

You think dragging the acceptance of homosexuality into a society is bad for it...what would the acceptance of murder do to it?!

People can be gay all they want and government should stay out of it...but dragging it into society is WRONG.

The same can't be said for murder. When dealing with a life...it is more critical. If you are unsure of when life begins...you should not risk being wrong and committing murder until you ARE sure!!!

(unfortunately...all signs point to life VERY EARLY ON!!!!)

...check out the post "this is what choice looks like" and atually READ IT. Be open to it this time before you make up your mind.

Anonymous said...

I'm saying that religion is responsible for the poor judgement of these girls. When did I say that it justifies anything?

"This is what choice looks like" is extreme, dangerous and meant to evoke emotion rather than thought or discussion. No different that if I were to post a bunch of pics of children thrown in garbage cans and half eaten by dogs entitled "you consider this a life?" to try to promote abortion. For all your beliefs and values, which I do admire in their intent, you fail to see that you are following absolutes that don't lend themselves to reality (world's not black and white) or the progressive thinking that originally pushed us to seek out the sea and evolve into the homo-sapiens we are today. How about that for foundation of the entire world rather than neo-christian foundations of this country alone?

Johnny :)

B2 said...

I do believe in evolution. I think many creationalists do! I believe God created us through evolution. It may have started with a speck of dust or a molecule or gas or a fish or monkey or whatever. Point is...where did that speck of dust or molecule or gas or whatever come from? It had to come from somewhere. I say God! You say no! Doesn't matter...I'm not trying to get into a debate on where we come from or whether God exists.

How do pics of children thrown in garbage cans and half eaten by dogs have to do with life? That is murder just like abortion. It doesn't matter if you kill the kid when it is 8 months old or if you wait until it is 10 months old...it is still murder!

The post "this is what choice looks like" IS real. There is nothing fake or exagerated about it. Murdering babies is sensational! Trying to make it not sensational is lying. How can you promote sugar coating murder?!

You obviously still haven't read through the post. I know it is long but give it a read. It is ALL FACTS!!! Not a single opinion! ALL FACTS!!! The trauma and side effects, the pictures, the stories, the illustrations on how they are performed, that statistics, the court testimony, the doctors testimony, the pain involved for the mother and baby! It is all true. You can't deny facts! It is hard to face or come to terms with, but at least give me the respect of reading the entire post and links, word for word before attempting to rebute it!

Anonymous said...

I've read it, more than once. There are a lot of facts. There are also a lot of missing facts and stories that would oppose your views. I just don't see an argument. I don't partake in sensationalism when trying to form an opinion 'cause it leads to skewed views. I'm not debating the morality of abortion, rather the legality of it. For me pics like that are not the way to debate a legal issue.


Anonymous said...

If murder is so wrong that it should be illegal than how come Conservatives are not putting forth a stronger voice against capital punishment? I know you're against it. I also feel you're against if for religious reasons. A lot of other Conservatives (mostly rulling our country in the Republican Party, and many in the Democratic Party) don't make such a big stink about people being on Death Row, yet focus on abortion (which, although you believe to be murder, you must see how some people may share a different opinion of where life begins e.g. second or third tri-mester vs. one day conceived, vs just semen which contains genetic material. We all must acknowledge that there is no debate on whether a 40 year old man about to go to the electric chair is truly alive.)


B2 said...

First of all...my opposition to Capital Punishment stems not solely from religious reasons (Bush is highly religious and supports capital punishment), as I don't always agree with fundamentalist Christian views. For example...the Bible (10 commandments) say "Though shall not kill" meaning "MURDER" not kill in self defense, as in war or protecting your family or homeland, etc.

Secondly...their is very little in the way of comparisons between abortion and capital punishment. The contrasts are much larger! One is an innocent human life and one is a human life that has been given a chance and messed it up BADLY.

My opposition to capital punishment stems from the high cost, the ineffectiveness (does NOT deter henious crimes, not does it offer much retribution to the victim's families). It seems to me to be just an easy way out. If Capital Punishment were to exist...I would rather see it in the form of public hanging or some other form of severe punishment that offers more retribution AND possibly acts as a deterant.

Also...the high number of innocent people on death row causes me much alarm. Killing ONE innocent person should NEVER be tolerated...whether it is an adult on death row OR an innocent unborn baby!!!

B2 said...

"There are also a lot of missing facts and stories that would oppose your views." -- I offer you this space to post these "missing facts"

"I don't partake in sensationalism when trying to form an opinion 'cause it leads to skewed views." -- It is impossible NOT to partake in sensationalism when evaluating the issue of abortion. It IS sensationalistic plain and simple. No way around it! The facts (not opinions) are sensationalistic. To ignore that or try to change it is evil and really nothing more than lying or half truths.

"I'm not debating the morality of abortion, rather the legality of it." -- How? That's impossible. Are you saying a moral wrong can be a civil right?! How can murder be rationalized?!

"For me pics like that are not the way to debate a legal issue." -- What pics would you use? Fake ones? Sensored ones? Those are actual pictures of abortions. We are debating abortion. How can a picture be any more relevant to a debate on abortion?

Anonymous said...

"How can murder be rationalized?"

"my opposition to capital punishment stems from the high cost,... I would rather see it in the form of public hanging..."

Posted 3.5 hours apart.


B2 said...

I don't see capital punishment as murder. (Keep in mind I oppose it though). There is a difference between murdering innocents and killing those who ARE guilty.

MURDER = The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

The bible actually say's that it is your duty to take up your sword and defend yourself from those who would harm you.

***Unfortunately...we don't always know "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that the person on death row IS GUILTY!!!

That's why I don't support it.

If you look up a little further in that post you quoted me on...I also said this:

"I don't always agree with fundamentalist Christian views. For example...the Bible (10 commandments) say "Though shall not kill" meaning "MURDER" not kill in self defense, as in war or protecting your family or homeland, etc."

Anonymous said...

As per your definition above there is no more argument necessary as abortion is not unlawful, thus is not murder.


B2 said...

THAT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO MY ARGUMENT. Very skewed! My argument was and IS very CLEARLY that KILLING INNOCENT LIFE IS MURDER, but killing in self-defense, or for protection is NOT. The only caveat I made was that we can't be 100% sure of a deathrow inmates guilt so it is not worth the risk of committing murder once, even if we get it right 99% of the time.

PS- Abortion ONCE WAS, SHOULD BE, and HOPEFULLY WILL BE AGAIN...UNLAWFUL!!! It is my #1 political and social issue! The genocide of unborn, innocent life!!!