Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents (I know again) for what it's worth on the recent passage of the healthcare bill. I know some of you tend to be more liberal and favor the democrats side so I want to be as sensitive as possible even though I'm REALLY ticked about what was allowed to happen through shady backroom deals, threats and intimidation.
First of all, I want to say that the problem of being denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions is something I can relate to since Type 1 diabetes runs in the family. Therefore, insurance for my family has always been a problem.
Everyone agrees that there needs to be some changes made to health insurance, but it is clear that the problems such as pre-existing conditions could have been addressed without infringing on all of our individual rights, putting the government in charge of yet another basic need (and we all know how crappy the quality of government run programs are) and raising our taxes and our children and grandchildren's taxes to pay for this almost $1 trillion dollar program! (Do you have any idea just how much a trillion dollars is?) (Can you think of even ONE government run program that isn't now in debt, and the quality isn't terrible?...post office, medicaid, medicare, social security, public education, etc.) According to FactCheck.org all of our insurance pemiums are to go up now anyway!!
Sure there are a few good things in the bill, but there are TONS more of terrible things in it. I want the good things just like you, such as not being denied because of pre-existing conditions and lowering premiums, etc. It's just that it was pretty obvious that all of that (and much more that needed to be fixed) could have been done without hurting our country the way this will!
This rediculous bill doesn't even address most of the most problamatic issues with our healthcare system, such as tort reform to deal with the frivolous lawsuits that run our medical costs up and in turn insurance premiums through the roof! So many problems and very few addressed and at what cost? Our freedoms!!! Over 30 states now have filed lawsuits so far because our Constitution protects us from being forced by the government to purchase something we don't want (such as crappy gov't. insurance). This is the first time in American history that we are now required to purchase something from the government or face criminal penalities. It was going to be up to 10 years in prison but was now dropped to fines and penalties.
There is a reason that in the latest cnn polls before the bill passed, only 25% of voters wanted it to pass. The rest of us all wanted to start over and do it right. Did you know that Obama himself admitted he didn't know what was in the bill and wouldn't until later after he signed it. His actuary admitted he didn't have time to read it yet either. There is a reason that obama, pelosi, reid and congress have dropped to the lowest levels in polls to date! 29% for Obama, 11% for congress, 11% for pelosi, 8% for reid! There is a reason that it took shady deals such as the cornhusker kickback, louisiana purchase, extra water allotments to senators in california, extra money for airports for Stupak (the pro-life democrat in charge of the group of 12 holding out), threats to charge ethics violations on dems that vote "no", refusal to campaign for any dem voting "no", etc. etc. etc. In short: They criminally used OUR taxpayer money to buy off votes to pass a bill we OPPOSED!!! How can anyone be ok with that?
And how can anyone in their right mind continue to support this President who has broken EVERY promise he has ever made! And the greed for power is unrivaled! Lets take a look at his Presidency so far:
He has now taken control of the healthcare industry (which alone is 1/6 of economy), housing industry, majority of banking industry, auto industry, student loan industry (yes he snuck that one into the healthcare bill...putting the gov;t. in charge of the student loan industry and putting over 30,000 bankers out of jobs). Next he will push Cap & Trade before Nov. elections which will raise our utility bills through the roof and give him partial control over all sectors of industry. From there...who knows, if he can before Nov. election he would probably shoot for the oil industry, and then food, grocery, etc. Prince Obama has now made himself the closest thing the US has ever had to a dictator! Only diff: we are now ruled by several (obama, reid, pelosi) instead of just one. But don't be fooled...they all answer to the Prince!
What else has he done since taking office? Oh yeah...broke his promise to bring home troops and end war...to date he has depolyed more troops than he has brought home! He broke his capaign promise where he said he was against spending freezes but then recently calling for a spending freeze (to look good) but then passing an almost $1 trillion dollar healthcare package anyway. He has called for increased funding for nuclear program. He has not dealt with Iran's nuke development but instead condemns Israel and refused to let them do what is in their best interest of national security! He condemns them for wanting to protect themselves from Iran who has vowed to remove Israel from the face of the earth. He has broken promises on transparency by refusing to put bills up for public viewing for 5 days before signing, refusing tv coverage over healthcare, stimulus, bailouts, etc. and refusing to post where our tax dollars (bailout $) has gone. He ignored promises of bi-partisanship and unity(we are now more divided than our country has EVER been), and called for secret meeting with democrats and without inviting republicans, ignored the will of the people that elected him by passing HUGE spending bills and raising taxes against the wishes of the people (stimulus, bailouts, healthcare). Only 25% of voters wanted healthcare bill passed! Instead of curbing spending he has voted to raise the debt limit several times so he could spend more. Reaching the new debt limit and voting to raise it even further several times now. He has already spent more than every President in US history combined (even adjusted for inflation). He has increased spending in EVERY category except for education where funding has been cut and many schools closed and teachers laid off (including here in OPS). We now spend more paying off our interest on our debt (mostly to China) than we spend on any other program period, including welfare, social security, the wars, etc.!!! He promised to cut pork barrel spending but the stimulus bill was lined with more pork than any other bill in US history! This healthcare bill had plenty too! He has made shady backroom deals and used threats and intimidation to pass unpopular bills against the wishes of the people who elected him! Not one promise kept so far!!!
Worst President in US history?! YOU DECIDE!!!
And back to health insurance...do you realize that currently those who truly can't affored health insurance are covered under Medicaid and Medicare and it is illegal to turn anyone (even illegal aliens) away from the ER. There is a tremendous number of free healthcare clinics all over. Almost ALL of the uninsured in the US is either eligible for Medicare but chooses not to enroll, or can afford health insurance but choose not to get it. It WAS there choice because we USED TO BE a free country! Not any longer. http://visionsfromthehorizon.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-are-uninsured-in-america.html This democratic party has become the most racist party I have ever seen. Making a ton of our minority population (among others) competely dependent on them for their basic needs (food, shelter, clothing, cell phones, healthcare, etc.) The people are now incapable, afraid to, or unmotivated to actually pull themselves up and reach their potential. The democrats extended unemployment benefits from 22 weeks to 99 weeks now. That is over TWO years you are allowed to sit there and get paid for not doing work from tax money stole from those that DO work. What happened to "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat forever"?!!!!
And what next anyway? We keep spending OUR tax money bailing out failing companies instead of forcing them to make changes and get better or go under and be replaced by better companies. What next? Oil prices too high so use our tax dollars to take over all the oil companies so you can control prices? Then electric and gas companies? Then grocery stores? Farms? You know?!!!! He already took over housing, banking, auto, school loans, healthcare, and already controlled retirement, education, some of healthcare, post office, etc. Where does it stop? You can't see how we are slowly becoming a socialist nation? And with more and more wealth being redistributed...a communist nation?! I looked at current tax rates which are now to go WAY up under Obama and I see that out of our paychecks we currently have to give 27% to the federal gov't. (27 cents out of every dollar we make) and we give a little over 6% to the state of Nebraska. That means that we give over 33 cents out of every dollar we make right up front. Then we get charged an additional almost 7% on every dollar we spend (sales tax) and even more than that on every dollar we save (property tax, retirement account tax, death tax, etc.) Then we have other taxes on EVERYTHING from phone bills, internet, gasolines, our food being heated or served, or any other service, etc., etc.
Accounts Receivable Tax, Building Permit Tax, Cable Television Tax, Capital Gains Tax, CDL license Tax, Cigarette Tax, Corporate Income Tax, Court Fines (indirect taxes), Dog License Tax, Federal Income Tax, Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA), Fishing License Tax, Food License Tax, Fuel permit tax, Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)(State MA 28 cents), Hunting License Tax, Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money), Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax), IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax), Liquor Tax, Local Income Tax, Luxury Taxes, Marriage License Tax, Medicare Tax, Property Tax, Real Estate Tax, Septic Permit Tax, Service Charge Taxes, Social Security Tax, Road Usage Taxes Truckers) (Added to delivery charge), Sales Taxes, Recreational Vehicle Tax, Road Toll Booth Taxes, School Tax, State Income Tax, State Unemployment Tax (SUTA), Telephone federal excise tax, Telephone federal universal service fee tax, Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes, Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax, Telephone state and local tax, Telephone usage charge tax, Toll Bridge Taxes, Toll Tunnel Taxes, Traffic Fines (indirect taxation), Trailer registration tax, Utility Taxes, Vehicle License Registration Tax, Vehicle Sales Tax (Every time sold & re-sold), Watercraft registration Tax, Well Permit Tax, Workers Compensation Tax
COMMENTS:
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What the hell happened???
***It seems to me that after considering ALL this we are lucky to keep even 25 or 30 cents out of every dollar we make! The government takes the other 70 to 75 cents out of each dollar made yet that still isn't enough! (and if you are hard working enough to make more than we do, you pay MUCH more than 27% in federal income tax!) And it is ALL being raised under Obama's watch!
Can you honestly tell me that just because he is a democrat or whatever else it is about him that appeals to you (that he gives nice speeches about unity or bi-partisanship or hope or change) or whatever....can you honestly tell me that you are okay with what he is doing? According to articles I have read, this Cap & trade he is going to pass next will raise your electic and utility bills by AT LEAST 300%!!! How much more are you willing to take from this clown?! It's not a Republican vs. Democrat thing! You know as well as I do, that the Democrats are COOKED in the next couple of elections. This country is all but certain to have a Republican President with likely a supermajority in the house and senate.
Interest on your school loans is being raised to help fund this healthcare by the way. And the quality of healthcare is already beginning it's decline as it did in Canada and UK. Their is a reason one of Canada's Premier's came to Florida for his heart sugery and claimed, "just because I went into politics doesn't mean I gave up my right to choose the best healthcare available for myself and my family." The quality dip is beginning. Wal-greens has stated it will not accept any new medicaid, and the MAYO clinic which Obama called, "a national model for efficient health care" began dropping medicare patients and won't accept any new ones. You will see more and more of the same just as in Canada and UK. There will be a shortage of doctors and clinics and hospitals and pharmacies as like in Canada you will have a 3 year wait for hip sugery or you will have to pay to fly somewhere else with better healthcare! Heck...Hawaii attempted Gov't. Healthcare just for children and it went bankrupt within 7 months. What makes us think it will succeed on a national level?! We can only hope it DOESN'T succeed! It's time to drop the apathy on this one before it's too late. Maybe even help "Atlas to shrug" by ushering up a movement to get as many folks as possible to visit their doctors as often as possible for nothing to bankrupt this program as quickly as possible before it causes any permanant damage! Then we can go back and start some REAL reform on healthcare without putting one more of our basic needs into the hands of the government!
Bryan
First of all, I want to say that the problem of being denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions is something I can relate to since Type 1 diabetes runs in the family. Therefore, insurance for my family has always been a problem.
Everyone agrees that there needs to be some changes made to health insurance, but it is clear that the problems such as pre-existing conditions could have been addressed without infringing on all of our individual rights, putting the government in charge of yet another basic need (and we all know how crappy the quality of government run programs are) and raising our taxes and our children and grandchildren's taxes to pay for this almost $1 trillion dollar program! (Do you have any idea just how much a trillion dollars is?) (Can you think of even ONE government run program that isn't now in debt, and the quality isn't terrible?...post office, medicaid, medicare, social security, public education, etc.) According to FactCheck.org all of our insurance pemiums are to go up now anyway!!
Sure there are a few good things in the bill, but there are TONS more of terrible things in it. I want the good things just like you, such as not being denied because of pre-existing conditions and lowering premiums, etc. It's just that it was pretty obvious that all of that (and much more that needed to be fixed) could have been done without hurting our country the way this will!
This rediculous bill doesn't even address most of the most problamatic issues with our healthcare system, such as tort reform to deal with the frivolous lawsuits that run our medical costs up and in turn insurance premiums through the roof! So many problems and very few addressed and at what cost? Our freedoms!!! Over 30 states now have filed lawsuits so far because our Constitution protects us from being forced by the government to purchase something we don't want (such as crappy gov't. insurance). This is the first time in American history that we are now required to purchase something from the government or face criminal penalities. It was going to be up to 10 years in prison but was now dropped to fines and penalties.
There is a reason that in the latest cnn polls before the bill passed, only 25% of voters wanted it to pass. The rest of us all wanted to start over and do it right. Did you know that Obama himself admitted he didn't know what was in the bill and wouldn't until later after he signed it. His actuary admitted he didn't have time to read it yet either. There is a reason that obama, pelosi, reid and congress have dropped to the lowest levels in polls to date! 29% for Obama, 11% for congress, 11% for pelosi, 8% for reid! There is a reason that it took shady deals such as the cornhusker kickback, louisiana purchase, extra water allotments to senators in california, extra money for airports for Stupak (the pro-life democrat in charge of the group of 12 holding out), threats to charge ethics violations on dems that vote "no", refusal to campaign for any dem voting "no", etc. etc. etc. In short: They criminally used OUR taxpayer money to buy off votes to pass a bill we OPPOSED!!! How can anyone be ok with that?
And how can anyone in their right mind continue to support this President who has broken EVERY promise he has ever made! And the greed for power is unrivaled! Lets take a look at his Presidency so far:
He has now taken control of the healthcare industry (which alone is 1/6 of economy), housing industry, majority of banking industry, auto industry, student loan industry (yes he snuck that one into the healthcare bill...putting the gov;t. in charge of the student loan industry and putting over 30,000 bankers out of jobs). Next he will push Cap & Trade before Nov. elections which will raise our utility bills through the roof and give him partial control over all sectors of industry. From there...who knows, if he can before Nov. election he would probably shoot for the oil industry, and then food, grocery, etc. Prince Obama has now made himself the closest thing the US has ever had to a dictator! Only diff: we are now ruled by several (obama, reid, pelosi) instead of just one. But don't be fooled...they all answer to the Prince!
What else has he done since taking office? Oh yeah...broke his promise to bring home troops and end war...to date he has depolyed more troops than he has brought home! He broke his capaign promise where he said he was against spending freezes but then recently calling for a spending freeze (to look good) but then passing an almost $1 trillion dollar healthcare package anyway. He has called for increased funding for nuclear program. He has not dealt with Iran's nuke development but instead condemns Israel and refused to let them do what is in their best interest of national security! He condemns them for wanting to protect themselves from Iran who has vowed to remove Israel from the face of the earth. He has broken promises on transparency by refusing to put bills up for public viewing for 5 days before signing, refusing tv coverage over healthcare, stimulus, bailouts, etc. and refusing to post where our tax dollars (bailout $) has gone. He ignored promises of bi-partisanship and unity(we are now more divided than our country has EVER been), and called for secret meeting with democrats and without inviting republicans, ignored the will of the people that elected him by passing HUGE spending bills and raising taxes against the wishes of the people (stimulus, bailouts, healthcare). Only 25% of voters wanted healthcare bill passed! Instead of curbing spending he has voted to raise the debt limit several times so he could spend more. Reaching the new debt limit and voting to raise it even further several times now. He has already spent more than every President in US history combined (even adjusted for inflation). He has increased spending in EVERY category except for education where funding has been cut and many schools closed and teachers laid off (including here in OPS). We now spend more paying off our interest on our debt (mostly to China) than we spend on any other program period, including welfare, social security, the wars, etc.!!! He promised to cut pork barrel spending but the stimulus bill was lined with more pork than any other bill in US history! This healthcare bill had plenty too! He has made shady backroom deals and used threats and intimidation to pass unpopular bills against the wishes of the people who elected him! Not one promise kept so far!!!
Worst President in US history?! YOU DECIDE!!!
And back to health insurance...do you realize that currently those who truly can't affored health insurance are covered under Medicaid and Medicare and it is illegal to turn anyone (even illegal aliens) away from the ER. There is a tremendous number of free healthcare clinics all over. Almost ALL of the uninsured in the US is either eligible for Medicare but chooses not to enroll, or can afford health insurance but choose not to get it. It WAS there choice because we USED TO BE a free country! Not any longer. http://visionsfromthehorizon.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-are-uninsured-in-america.html This democratic party has become the most racist party I have ever seen. Making a ton of our minority population (among others) competely dependent on them for their basic needs (food, shelter, clothing, cell phones, healthcare, etc.) The people are now incapable, afraid to, or unmotivated to actually pull themselves up and reach their potential. The democrats extended unemployment benefits from 22 weeks to 99 weeks now. That is over TWO years you are allowed to sit there and get paid for not doing work from tax money stole from those that DO work. What happened to "Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish and he'll eat forever"?!!!!
And what next anyway? We keep spending OUR tax money bailing out failing companies instead of forcing them to make changes and get better or go under and be replaced by better companies. What next? Oil prices too high so use our tax dollars to take over all the oil companies so you can control prices? Then electric and gas companies? Then grocery stores? Farms? You know?!!!! He already took over housing, banking, auto, school loans, healthcare, and already controlled retirement, education, some of healthcare, post office, etc. Where does it stop? You can't see how we are slowly becoming a socialist nation? And with more and more wealth being redistributed...a communist nation?! I looked at current tax rates which are now to go WAY up under Obama and I see that out of our paychecks we currently have to give 27% to the federal gov't. (27 cents out of every dollar we make) and we give a little over 6% to the state of Nebraska. That means that we give over 33 cents out of every dollar we make right up front. Then we get charged an additional almost 7% on every dollar we spend (sales tax) and even more than that on every dollar we save (property tax, retirement account tax, death tax, etc.) Then we have other taxes on EVERYTHING from phone bills, internet, gasolines, our food being heated or served, or any other service, etc., etc.
Accounts Receivable Tax, Building Permit Tax, Cable Television Tax, Capital Gains Tax, CDL license Tax, Cigarette Tax, Corporate Income Tax, Court Fines (indirect taxes), Dog License Tax, Federal Income Tax, Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA), Fishing License Tax, Food License Tax, Fuel permit tax, Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)(State MA 28 cents), Hunting License Tax, Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money), Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax), IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax), Liquor Tax, Local Income Tax, Luxury Taxes, Marriage License Tax, Medicare Tax, Property Tax, Real Estate Tax, Septic Permit Tax, Service Charge Taxes, Social Security Tax, Road Usage Taxes Truckers) (Added to delivery charge), Sales Taxes, Recreational Vehicle Tax, Road Toll Booth Taxes, School Tax, State Income Tax, State Unemployment Tax (SUTA), Telephone federal excise tax, Telephone federal universal service fee tax, Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes, Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax, Telephone state and local tax, Telephone usage charge tax, Toll Bridge Taxes, Toll Tunnel Taxes, Traffic Fines (indirect taxation), Trailer registration tax, Utility Taxes, Vehicle License Registration Tax, Vehicle Sales Tax (Every time sold & re-sold), Watercraft registration Tax, Well Permit Tax, Workers Compensation Tax
COMMENTS:
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What the hell happened???
***It seems to me that after considering ALL this we are lucky to keep even 25 or 30 cents out of every dollar we make! The government takes the other 70 to 75 cents out of each dollar made yet that still isn't enough! (and if you are hard working enough to make more than we do, you pay MUCH more than 27% in federal income tax!) And it is ALL being raised under Obama's watch!
Can you honestly tell me that just because he is a democrat or whatever else it is about him that appeals to you (that he gives nice speeches about unity or bi-partisanship or hope or change) or whatever....can you honestly tell me that you are okay with what he is doing? According to articles I have read, this Cap & trade he is going to pass next will raise your electic and utility bills by AT LEAST 300%!!! How much more are you willing to take from this clown?! It's not a Republican vs. Democrat thing! You know as well as I do, that the Democrats are COOKED in the next couple of elections. This country is all but certain to have a Republican President with likely a supermajority in the house and senate.
Interest on your school loans is being raised to help fund this healthcare by the way. And the quality of healthcare is already beginning it's decline as it did in Canada and UK. Their is a reason one of Canada's Premier's came to Florida for his heart sugery and claimed, "just because I went into politics doesn't mean I gave up my right to choose the best healthcare available for myself and my family." The quality dip is beginning. Wal-greens has stated it will not accept any new medicaid, and the MAYO clinic which Obama called, "a national model for efficient health care" began dropping medicare patients and won't accept any new ones. You will see more and more of the same just as in Canada and UK. There will be a shortage of doctors and clinics and hospitals and pharmacies as like in Canada you will have a 3 year wait for hip sugery or you will have to pay to fly somewhere else with better healthcare! Heck...Hawaii attempted Gov't. Healthcare just for children and it went bankrupt within 7 months. What makes us think it will succeed on a national level?! We can only hope it DOESN'T succeed! It's time to drop the apathy on this one before it's too late. Maybe even help "Atlas to shrug" by ushering up a movement to get as many folks as possible to visit their doctors as often as possible for nothing to bankrupt this program as quickly as possible before it causes any permanant damage! Then we can go back and start some REAL reform on healthcare without putting one more of our basic needs into the hands of the government!
Bryan
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